Angus Reid | Beyond the Game: Lessons in Leadership and Life [EP 22]

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• Angus Reid | Beyond the Game: Lessons in Leadership and Life - Mick Unplugged [EP 22]

  Intro: Are you ready to change your habits, sculpt your destiny, and light up your path to greatness? Welcome to the epicenter of transformation. This is Mick Unplugged. We'll help you identify your because so you can create a routine that's not just productive, but powerful. You'll embrace the art of evolution, adapt strategies to stay ahead of the game, and take a step toward the extraordinary.

  So let's unleash your potential. Now, here's Mick.

  Mick Hunt: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Mick Unplugged where we dive deep into the stories and strategies that drive extraordinary success. And today, we have a guest whose career on and off the field has inspired countless individuals. He's a true legend in the world of Canadian football known for his resilience, leadership, and unwavering dedication. Please join me in welcoming the man who defines winning, the incredible mister Angus Reid. Angus, welcome to Make Unplug, brother.

  Angus Reid: Oh, it's an honor to be here, man. Thanks for having me on.

  Mick Hunt: Man. So, you know, we were talking offline. We've connected through friends, and I told you, I feel like I've known you forever, and you're like the first cousin of mine. Right? So this is amazing for the people to get to hear the story of Angus and some of the crazy, cool, amazing things that you have going on, man.

  Angus Reid: That's what it's about. Right? Sharing with each other, learning from each other, helping each other, making everyone part of the same team.

  Mick Hunt: That's right. So, Angus, I wanna start, man. Like, on my podcast, I believe in going deeper than your why and really being fueled by your because. And so you've had an amazing career in the CFL, but what was the defining moment for you? Like, what was that one moment or motivation that ignited your passion for who you were during your football days?

  Angus Reid: During the days or to get there because, you know, Mick, it's always interesting I find when you look back on people that have achieved whatever they deem success to be, there tends to be that driving force that gets them there. And then I always find there's, as you said, defining moments, once you're in that journey that will take you to, whatever you deem success once you're at that level. Right? And and that's why sports is interesting because just like any career that spans time frames, there's that whole lead up story of what drove you to do, what it took to take on the ridiculous risks to pursue that type of career. And then once you're in the career, there's that entire, you know, driving force that enables you to climb the ladder within and and and work your way up.

  And so for me, I think it's always hard to look at your own life and try to tell yourself why you did what you did and why you are who you are. I can look at external factors. I'm one of 6 kids. I'm the youngest of 5 boys. So I grew up with 4 older brothers that were all athletes, competitive, and in my eyes, extraordinary in my eyes.

  They were heroes to me. So I had, something I wanted to live up to internally within my family. You know, you can prove you're something within your own family world, but in a really cool way. They were my older brothers were my biggest fans. So that was really cool.

  I wasn't a little brother that was getting picked on and had to prove myself. I wanted to be just like them because they were amazing. And and I wanted to be like them and to make them proud because I looked up to them so much. So on the one hand, I'll say I was very blessed to be in an environment being raised where I was around what I considered greatness. And it was a loving family greatness, but it was also competitiveness, not so much with the external world, but with becoming your best.

  Like you do things to become your best. That's what you do. And I I'm so grateful that I had role models. They didn't have to teach it to me. They just lived it.

  They modeled it as a role model, I guess, is by its very definition. And I just learned that whatever you do, you bring your very best because that's what you do. Not to beat the competition or to get the reward or to make the money. You pick something that wants you to bring your best to the environment because you just want to. So that's to me, I think if you look at my entire career, once I made it, there was a lot of ups and downs and challenges and tribulations.

  We can look at it. But I think the defining thread for me is I chose something that I really love to do. And I only knew one way to do that, which was to take everything as an opportunity to improve who I am. To learn more about myself and to realize that I'm better than I thought I was if I'm willing to apply everything I've got to everything that's being put in front of me. No complaints, always gratitude, and just maximum effort and learning.

  So that's probably who I am philosophically. And then, you know, there's many moments. But to me, they're great for storytelling. They're great for keynotes, but they're they're moments that are just examples, I think, of the deeper as you said, what was it?

  Mick Hunt: Your because.

  Angus Reid: Your because. And I I Yeah. It sounds crazy to me, but I I think my because is my never ending gratitude for the environment I was raised in. That's why I bring everything to everything I've got. Because I have good models, good parents, good family.

  And there was a great quote, I think by, I think it was Chris Spielman, one of the great linebacker in football years ago. He said, to be lazy is to be disrespectful for those who believe in you or those who care about you. And I and and you can use the word lazy, but to me, to not become my very best that I'm capable of would be disrespectful to the amazing environment I was raised in. So that that's probably my because.

  Mick Hunt: I love it. And I totally agree with you in that sentiment as well too. You know, I tell people and and I got this from my mentor. He had me really think, And Les Brown, for those who don't know, is my mentor. And he was like, mate, what's the one thing you fear?

  I thought about it for a moment. I said, you know, I fear that when it's all said and done and, you know, we're all gonna meet death one day. When it's all said and done, I'm gonna meet the person I was supposed to be, and that scares me the most. And so I can totally equate to what you're saying and relate with that very well too. You know, Angus, you said through your career, it was never easy.

  Right? And for anyone that's played sport, like, it is never easy. You've got opponents coming for you. You've got teammates that are coming for you. Like, nothing is ever as easy as I think TV or commentating makes it to to appear.

  Can you share a specific instance where your resilience was tested and and how you overcame it? Because I call you the king of winning and the king of resiliency.

  Angus Reid: For sure. And and, I mean, I'll I'll give some more context to your point that nothing as easy as it looks from the outside, particularly when you're seeing people on on the winning side of the equation. But post sports is is a very unforgiving world that doesn't really care what a nice person you are or the good deeds you do. It's sheer ability. And at the highest level, you hope your stars are nice people, but that's not what makes them win games and score points.

  It's ability. And in sports, a lot of that has to do with just your genetic blessings. Right? Like, a guy like Shaquille O'Neal is a great guy and he's fantastic basketball player, but he's 7 foot 2, like, you know, £350. I can work all I want and and do all these drills and effort.

  He's got a he's got a blessing that I didn't have. Right? So I played football, and I was an offensive lineman. And even for casual football fans know that offensive linemen are probably the biggest strongest athletes in the world. You're looking at people that are 6 foot 4 to 6 foot 6 or 330, £350, £380.

  They can move. They can they're just human grizzly bears is how I generally describe them. And I'm not. You know, I'm a I'm a decent sized guy for normal life, but we know pro sports isn't normal. I'm, like, 6 foot 1.

  I I stuffed my face to barely get up to £300. But now that I'm retired, I sit around £240. I'm a good sized guy, but I'm not an elite physical specimen to be an offensive lineman. So I was always fighting the uphill battle my whole life, trying to be something that the world didn't think I should've be. I didn't fit the narrative that you're gonna be successful because, look, I'm like, well, I'm gonna be successful because that's what I'm gonna do.

  So I was always fighting that. And I think the one defining moment in my career that I can speak to, I was in my 10th year. So deep into my career now. And I knew you said, Mick, every day there's opponents trying to get you. Well, you know what?

  Age is trying to get you. Injuries are trying to get you. Media is trying to get you. Even your own coaches and general manager are trying to upgrade the team with a bigger, younger, cheaper version of you every single day. Even though they're cheering for you in the game time, they are evaluating other players to see if they can replace you every moment.

  That's a stressful environment even when you are the most gifted, And I wasn't. So every day I knew they were looking for 6 foot 5. They were looking for longer arms, but I, you know, I never missed a game. I never missed a practice and I always brought my best. So I became glue that they were not willing to replace with maybe cheaper glue.

  I I kept everything together, so I I built so much trust that they weren't gonna take that chance. And we were playing a game in Saskatchewan. I was my 9th year. Sorry. So I was 3034 years old and a routine play, not a big deal.

  And I got hit from behind, and it didn't seem like a big deal until I heard the felt the pain. I snapped my foot in half. I shattered my foot. My foot literally cracked in half. I broke every bone toward every ligament.

  My foot completely snapped in half. It stubbed the I stubbed my foot and I got hit behind. And I knew in that moment I didn't roll my ankle. Like I knew, I knew like, I never felt pain like this. And I remember sitting there on the field going, well, that's my career.

  And I'm not doing this as a device for athletes. Don't do this. But you wanna talk about, like, the mental side of people that push through things that most of the world would say, no way. But certain people just do, and it probably speaks to who you are. This wasn't smart, but sometimes extreme measures to go that extra yard aren't gonna be smart things.

  But you gotta believe in yourself and believe in something more than what the world will tell you should do. I got carried off the field and I didn't do a smart thing. I kinda I knew what I'd done. I didn't know technically, but I knew I didn't roll my ankle. And I told the staff, I said, look, I've just rolled my ankle, just tape it up.

  Don't I didn't want to take my shoe off because I knew my foot was gonna go like this. I said, I'm good to go. And I called the team over my linemen, and they're like, You're done, right? I said, No, no, we gotta go win this game. And they go, you can't walk.

  I'm like, don't worry about it. We'll get it done. There's video of a TV copy of this. It's it's it's unbelievable. I never missed a snap.

  That was mid 3rd quarter. I went and played the rest of the game, and the game went to double over Okay. The my only double overtime game in my career. So you talk about, like, getting it all thrown at you at once. I'm the unluckiest man in the world tonight.

  But then I am the luckiest man because I found out what I'm really worth. I found out what I can really do. And I played every snap on a shattered foot. And there's video of the teammates. I have my arms around each of them coming out of the huddle, and I'm hopping up a 1 foot.

  And then adrenaline got me through those 7 seconds. Full speed. Best I had back again and again. I would never advise him to do that. But when you zoom out a football, you know, you got your why or your because or whatever, but prove it.

  And to me, it's like people talk about games why I do it, but when it really comes down to it, are you still willing to do it? And that was a defining moment in my career because I almost never played again. I had to rebuild my foot. I was I I got demoted to a backup after that because I couldn't run. I had these screws my feet, and I played 3 more years.

  I was an all Canadian 2 more times. I won the Grey Cup again. I team captain it after that. After I was told I'd never run again. And in that moment, I learned I can do so much more than what you think you can do.

  And again, because you have your because, you have your why. Where 99% of the world goes, that's enough. If you have a you know, what is it? You can bear any how if you have strong enough why or or because. Right?

  And and so it mattered more to me not just to keep playing football, but to keep seeing how much more I could do with my life. And everyone can't do this, but maybe I can. I'm gonna see what I'm really worth here. And there was tremendous pride in me that I I did something stupid, but I did it. And I'm like, wow.

  For the rest of my life, there's gonna be hardships every day. Real real hardships. That's just football. That's nothing, right? There's gonna be real hardships in life.

  Now, after I had children and family and every day, you're gonna have reasons that you can quit today. And most of the world will be like, I don't blame you. But some people go, no, but I got to do this. This has to get done. Nah, it's too much.

  Yeah, sure. But I'm going to do it because I have my because. And that's a defining moment of my career because you know, I I don't speak on it from this level, but I go back to Saskatchewan. They were like archrival teams. They're in the middle of the country, and they don't forget that game.

  Everybody knew I did that, and that's not why I did it. But it's it was something I did in the moment. I wasn't going, this is going to be remembered. I'm like, I got a job to do here. And I said, yeah, but you broke foot.
  
  Yeah. But I still have something I got to get done. I'm going to do it unless I actually can't. So let's find out. And I feel fortunate in that moment, I got to find out what I was really capable of for.

  I don't know ever, most people don't get that chance to find out what you're really capable of. You know, we live in parameters, we have outs, we have enough. And once in a while, it's nice to go, I never thought I could do that. And I did it. Wow.

  I wonder what else I could do that I didn't think I could do. It gives you locks to open all the doors that would have just been hard walls otherwise.

  Mick Hunt: That was deep right there, man. That was really deep. I I love that. So double overtime.

  Angus Reid: Yeah. It's crazy. It was crazy. I never played 1 in my whole life, Amun. You I think I can get through a quarter and a half.

  Double overtime. This is nice. Throw it all out.

  Mick Hunt: As well. I I say that because, you know, earlier I called you the ultimate winner. And you have a winner's mindset. And I say this a lot. You can have won something but really not be a winner.

  To me, winners have a winning mindset, and they stack wins on top of wins on top of wins. That's what gives you the term winner because you are a winner. And so for you, being the ultimate winner and winning is seen as the ultimate goal in sports. But you've been able to take it not just in your career, but also in your life. So I would love for the world to hear how Angus Reid defines winning.

  And what approach do you take to winning to really make you a winner?

  Angus Reid: It's a great point. So I coach high school football now, and so I've kinda embarked all the things you just mentioned to the young guys because the default to winning is having more points in the sport at the end of the game than the other team. And if you don't teach anyone different, they think winning means beating somebody. And I talked to parents about this all time. Like, if you only take your boy out when they win the game, because they won and don't have any other conversations, they think that's what matters.

  And you wonder why they start cheating to win, and they start lying to win. Because you define winning as just beating the other team. And I had to give a talk to our team 2 years ago when we we lost in the championship game, And I changed the verbiage from winner for, as you said, to the difference between winning a championship and being a champion. I said, winning a championship means, you know, you have more points on the board at the end of the game than the other team. There's a million reasons why that can happen.

  The ref made this call and the ball bounced this way. There's unlimited variables that would be out of control that would have that outcome. And it's fun to cheer that and celebrate that. But being a champion to me, as I think in terms of what you're saying to being a winner, is bringing your very best to everything that you have the opportunity to do. And when you really look at that, there is so much more in your control than what we give ourselves credit for.

  We outsource out of our control so easily when you really look at it and go, what what could you have done? And you could always give a little more focus, get a little more attention. You could have left earlier. You could have left more room for error. You could have left more time for that distraction not to happen or, you know, have you done everything to become your best?

  And to me, again, that's probably not a attainable reality if you really unpack it. But in general scope, you're a champion. You will win more than not by whatever variable you wanna put into. But let's not narrow what winning means. As you said, you'd be a winner.

  Winning comes and goes. Winning, you know, happens for all kinds of reasons that are truly out of your control. But being a winner, being a champion is you are bringing your very best to everything that you have decided to do and become. And I I challenge people when I speak to them. Can anybody ever stop you from bringing your best?

  Only yourself. So nobody can stop any of them from being a champion, from being a winner. And if you do that, my belief is over the course of time, you will probably win more often than not. You will have the other wins too, because that will routinely bring out your best results. Right.

  But you know, if we don't have those discussions with our youth, they grow to adults that believe winning is that end product game, period. Everything else is a loser. We're very binary with our thinking otherwise. If you're not a winner, you're a loser. If we didn't win, we lost.

  And you need those conversations. And then we need to challenge ourselves with remind ourselves what it is. So right now, are you bringing your very best to right now? You always can. Most of us don't.

  And to me, that's what a winner or like I was talking, that's what a champion really does. They bring their very best to everything they do in life. It's difficult. That's why. And that's why there's great pride in it because as they say, if it was easy, everybody would do it and it wouldn't really mean much, would it?

  Mick Hunt: That's right.

  Angus Reid: But everybody can. Everybody can.
  
  Mick Hunt: Agree. Totally agree. You were a team captain for many years. You're now coaching a team, football, high school kids, but then you also are a leader and captain outside of the the world of sport too. What principles do you adhere to when it comes to being a leader, both on and off the field or on the field, all CFL days on the field with your high school kids, but more importantly off the field in your, I'm gonna say your true Angus life.

  Sure. And, like, what are some of the principles that you have?

  Angus Reid: Anyone that you're around, anybody that you are responsible for coaching, developing, or creating culture with, number one rule of mine is, you have to ensure that you have done everything in your power to intentionally quote unquote guarantee that they know you care about them. If you if you haven't ensured that they know for real, that you care about them, you're leaving margin for them to wander with wondering where else can I go? You keep it transactional. They get paid a buck more down the road. You need to make this transformational, not transactional environment.

  If it's transactional, you keep them around because you pay them more and you give them better benefits and they'll keep getting that somewhere else. If you know that I care about you and that you've mattered to us, and what you're doing here is extraordinarily important. And it's because of you and you're the one doing it. I think you have the best bet of having people then care back. And once you have people caring, I think anything can be done now.

  But the only way to have someone care, I truly believe, is to make them know how much you care about them first. So that's my rule. Number 1 is my coach, Dan, who I wrote a book about. I talked about he was my offensive line coach for a decade. He used to tell me this story.

  He grew up in, Pittsburgh and, you know, steel town in the seventies and on a tough labor work. And he said, you know, for years he knew bosses he had leaders he had, they'd look out and they'd see 2 words probably on on every employee's forehead that said, use me. And you knew it. And that's transactional. I'll do it because you're paying me.

  I'll do it because I get this. He said, I wanted to make sure the rest of my life, and I live by this principle now. Everybody that you're coaching or helping or the environment you create as a leader, you see 2 words on everyone's head, help me. And once you see that, you gotta care about them. And once you treat them like you care about them, most humans are gonna care back.

  And now and now they're open to coaching. Now they wanna get better because they know you care about them. Otherwise, you're attacking them, and your criticism's negative, and it's all seem as destructive. Once you know you truly care, all your words are coming from that place like, well, you're obviously helping me because you care. And so that's my guiding principle is make sure they know I care whether it's notes, I write to them letters, I'm very explicit, like, I don't I don't leave it like for, I'm sure they saw that wink I gave, I put it in words.

  You know, these are teenage boys or or 40 year old managers I work with. You stop them. You look them dead in the eye. Just so you know, I'm so happy that you're here with us. You matter.

  And we couldn't do this work without you. And I make sure they know that. So I leave no error or doubt, no margin of doubt that they matter. And I'm so grateful and I care so much about them.

  Mick Hunt: That's amazing. It's funny. So I was writing down exactly what you were saying about care. So a couple of weeks ago, I was giving a speech out in Texas, and we were talking about the modern buyer and then also the modern buyer experience. And one thing that the modern buyer wants, and I would say the modern employee to to piggyback on what you said, is they wanna know that you care.

  And so I literally had everyone in the audience write down 4 letters, c a r e. If you can focus on that, then that's how you get loyalty. That's how you build authenticity. Because we can tell to your point if we're just a transaction as a customer or prospect as well too. We can tell if we're just a transaction as an employee.

  So if you can relate care into everything that you're doing for those that are listening and watching, I agree with Angus. That is the number one key to success is to let people know and not only let them know, but show that you care and do it with an authentic purpose because that's how you connect with people.

  Angus Reid: So to me, it's funny because everybody's looking for this secret formula for great cultures. And they're overlooking, I think, that simplest piece, which is the most everything stems from that. Once someone knows you care, you develop a huge margin for error that you don't have to be perfect today and your price doesn't have to be the best. And you can screw up today because you care about me. And so they care about you.

  And so just like in your family, you give a little grace period to your to your family because they love you, and and they're not perfect. But if you don't, then you better be perfect, or you better be the cheapest, or you better be the fastest. And and we all lose those games. It it's truly transactional. And what's really cool to me is you said, if you do it from an authentic place, you now have de commoditized yourself because Mick, you care authentically differently than I will.

  And once we resonate, they want to be with you. And you can't compare you to me because it's different. And that's where I speak at coaching clinics all the time. It's like, you know, you can take my drills, you can take my coaching philosophy, but if you don't make it yours, they have no link to you. It's just stuff we're handing over to each other, sealing ideas.

  But everything stems from that I care about you. That everything that you come to the table with is because you they they know you care about them. And it has that stickability. It has that it gains roots and then roots are real and things grow. Otherwise, everything's just in and out information, money, you said transactions, and people are trying to get better at that.

  I'm like, sorry. You're not gonna beat Amazon. You're just not. Like, do something different because you won't win that game.

  Mick Hunt: That's it. I love that, man. And I wanna unplug something too. You were talking about coach Dan, and then I wanna talk about the the book and highlight that. Thank you, coach.

  Amazing. For everyone out there, I'll have links in the show notes for that, but thank you, coach. It's amazing. You you talk about and I've seen a lot of your stories and a lot of your messages, the key of mentorship and legacy. So let's talk a little bit about your key mentors, but then also more importantly, what legacy do you hope to leave for the next generation of athletes and leaders?

  Angus Reid: So good question. I think my my initial mentors is my family. So and I speak to people all the time that you can't seek out a good family. You have you have some lucky there. A good I mean, my parents have been married 52 years.

  6 kids. We're loving. We're Irish Catholics, so we're loud. We're noisy. Everyone supports each other.

  We all played sports. So I was raised in a gym and a field. So that was all normalized behavior to me. But what my parents modeled was anyone that didn't have moms and dads at home at night and dinners, everyone for all my brothers teams, they all in our house. So early on, I just thought, of course, you bring people over that need need a meal.

  And it was more than the meal, the right they needed loving support. They needed an environment or else they'd be sitting at home eating Domino's pizza ordering every night by themselves. And I didn't recognize that till I got older. All these kids call my they they hug and kiss my parents, like, they're their parents too because they needed that belonging. And so my parents modeled that for me.

  Like, you make people know that you're part of me for real, again, not transactional. Are they playing your team? No, they're part of our family too. They don't they don't have anyone home, they come over to our house, whatever, always all the way up to pro. You know, the Americans on our team, they didn't ever go for the weekend to come to our house.

  And they all I'm like, of course, you do. So I was raised like, that's not even a question. You You bring everyone over. It doesn't know where to go. You feed people that don't have food, like, whatever.

  I had good high school football coaches, but I will say coach Dan, once I got into the world of, like, professionalism, he was the the guiding mentor of my my life because he did a few things. 1, obviously, he was very skilled at what he was coaching me. So he knew his stuff. He wasn't a BS artist. Artist.

  You can care about people at the end of the day, but if you can't really help them with what they're doing, you just become a friend. But to be a real mentor and a coach, you also have to have the knowledge to support them. Right? I think there's I learned this, and this is not me. This is a psychological truth.

  And there's 3 things people are always thinking when they're about to answer your question is, do you care about me? Can I trust you? Can you help me? So like, I'm getting I'm talking to you because you have something that can help me. Can I trust you?

  And do you care about me? That'll vet how much I give you? How guarded I am with my honest answers. So Dan knew his stuff, 1st and foremost. But he took deep tensional focus on every individual.

  Now when you read my book, and I have demos here. I bring them up my keynotes. He will think of this. This is pro football. Tough world post football.

  He wrote each of his players personalized letter every single week. I have 213 letters from my coach at home. I play 213 games. He still writes us. He still writes me birthday cards.

  I haven't played for him in 10 years, and I call my buddies. He writes for them too. He's coached for 50 years. And these are letters that aren't like rah rah fluffs. Like, Angus, I saw after Tuesday on practice, you talking to one of the rookies out there.

  That's why you're a leader. Like, he watches what you do and reminds you that he paid attention to you, and he highlights it. That's why it's a big deal. And so what I learned from him is you, yeah, you coach people, you can't wait to catch them doing something good. You remind them that they're doing something good, which means I'll keep doing that.

  And it means you pay attention to me, care about me. Holy smokes. Now I want you to coach me really hard. See, if you coach me really hard, you don't care about me. You're just a mean person.

  And you're using me, and I know it. And I'll begrudgingly give you effort. Once you care about me, all your coach knows are met. So he was the hardest coach I ever had. And so I learned that now with the high school kids.

  Once they know you really care, they want you to coach them hard. So you care, you're just a mean person. You're just some guy that's like, you think you know everything. Once you know that so I'm soft with them in the beginning, I pump them up and I let them know how they're good they are. Then they come to me, coach, come on, what more can I do here?

  I'm like, okay. They want more because they know all my words come from caring. Dan taught me that you don't lower the standards of behavior, but you up the level of care, which which which allows you huge leeway now to get really tough with people because it's tough love. Otherwise, you're just tough and you're just mean. But now you're someone that cares about me so much because you want to find out how good I can really become because you want to see me become great.

  That's why you're doing this. Otherwise, you're just using me. And so the biggest lessons I learned all the time was obviously know your stuff, don't BS people because you're not helping them. But but that's why when I finished, it's like, I coach football. And I also coach leadership in business culture.

  And I was worried that I was BS ing my way through this. But then I'm not helping you with your with your actual operations here. I'm helping with people culture. I'm like, I know something about, you know, getting 50, 60, a 100 people that all have egos and personalities to believe in the same thing and drop that down. And that's universal.

  Right? That's human beings. And so I speak on what I know, and I bring from a point of caring, and I bring from a point of of seeing it work at the highest level. So and my legacy said from from mentorship is, you know, all these young guys that I coach now, and a lot of them going off to university now, they're always you know, they will say, how do I repay you? Because I I I refuse.

  Like, I I let the kids they work out at my house in the mornings. I go to a field, run with them, and and all these other adults are charging kids big money, training them. Like, that's not helping. That's called charging. I don't need a 15 year old client.

  Okay? I'm a mentor. Don't say you're helping someone when they're paying you. They're helping you. Okay?

  Just be very clear on this. So I I help anyone that needs help. I will never charge a dime. And when they're done, they're always like, you know, how how can I ever pay you back? You're gonna do this for someone else down the road.

  That's what you do. That's what you do. Because someone helped me years ago. So I'm not not gonna charge the next generation for passing up what was gifted to me as a mentor, and then now charge. So I tell these young boys and they get it.

  And they said, I will coach a 100%. I go, I know you will. Because you've learned. You learn this, you master it so you can pass it on. That's what we do.

  And that's how the world goes around. That's what good people do as far as I know. That's how I see the world. That's a winner. A winner doesn't take it all.

  A winner shares every little bit of it and helps everybody else win too.

  Mick Hunt: Alright. Angus, I'm gonna get you out of here on this. K. Actually, 2 things. Give the listeners and and viewers two key points of advice that they can be doing right now to either turn their career around, be inspired to be a better winner if they're an athlete.

  What are two things that Angus recommends people do right now?

  Angus Reid: I'll, 1, I'll improve your interpersonal communications with others. Always attack the problem, never attack the person. So as soon as you have a different argument, I mean, we get arguments because my viewpoints versus your viewpoint. Let's talk about the issue. Let's talk about the problem.

  Let's make it subjective, and let's remove people from it so we can get emotions out of here and actually focus on something to get better. Hard people to do. We're binary. I'm gonna argue you and I'm gonna beat you now. We're competing against each other.

  Just talk about things. We don't wanna do that because it gets you subjective. Other than that, I I would say, people can be disbelieving on this, but I think the best thing you can do is think of things that you wanna improve on. Like, you gotta sit down and take some time to your own and be like, look. I really wish I could be doing this this.

  Okay. Find people you care about most. Sit down and go, listen. I need your help and let's help each other. These are the things I really wanna improve on.

  Whether you call accountability coach or whether you call it a check-in person or whether you call it a b s caller. I need you to make sure I'm doing this stuff, please. And I want to help you get better too. What do you what where where can I help you? Pure accountability to me is powerful when they know you care about you.

  Don't don't let me off the hook here. Like I want to do this. And let's set a date, whatever. I want to have this by this. And I'm accountable to you now.

  That raises the stakes a little bit. As long as you someone cares about you, A a friend would be like, listen, I I wanna change this. And you find out who your friends are by the way too, but, you know, people all wanna be better. But we're emotional creatures that we we give ourselves logical excuses every morning for not getting there. And tomorrow, tomorrow, don't let me get away with it.

  You care about me. This is what I wanna get done. Can you help me? Okay. What do you need help with every day?

  Call me out. Have I moved the needle on this? Let's, you know, make up whatever by this day, you want this, kick my butt off on doing it. Like, make me do this please. Cause I won't.

  And then momentum takes over. Everything's momentum, right? Once you get going, you know, people start eating better. They feel better, they eat better, and they feel better and they work out more. You gotta need help getting momentum going.

  I find it's very hard. So I get peer help. That's what I want to do. Make sure I get it done, please. And then how can I help you?

  Peer groups are powerful that way.

  Mick Hunt: I love it. Alright. Last one. Where can people find you, follow you, keep up to date with all the amazing things and get that done? Sure.

  Angus Reid: Yeah. Thanks. My website is very pedestrian. It's just a way to basically email me or link to my books. It's angusreed64.com.

  I'm probably most active on all my socials on Twitter at Angus Readsixty 4, Instagram at Angus underscore read sixty four. I'm on LinkedIn. Yeah. Those are probably the easiest platforms to get me. My website would be able to shoot me an email, though.

  I respond to everything myself. I do everything myself. You reach out to me. It's me talking back to you. Love to hear from anybody.

  I don't claim to have all the answers, but I but I promise you I'll share whatever insights you want from me always.

  Mick Hunt: Love it. Everybody, make sure you're following Angus. I'll have all the links in the description and show notes. An amazing resource and someone I'm very proud to call a friend. Angus, thank you for being on the show and representing all the amazing things about you.

  I appreciate you, brother.

  Angus Reid: Thank you, Mick. It's it's been a real honor and a lot of fun.

  Mick Hunt: There you go. And for all the listeners, remember, your because is your superpower. Go unleash it.

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